Minutes:
Attendees:
- Paul Jones (Head of City Services)
- Joanne Turner (Senior Technical Officer, City Services)
Apologies:
- Bev Owen (Strategic Director - Place)
- Steve Davies (Senior Strategy Manager, City Services)
The Head of City Services presented a brief overview of the Draft Highway Asset Management Plan to the Committee, highlighting the key areas for consideration. He reminded the Committee of the Briefing that had been presented to Members in September 2018 upon the condition of the road network and also mentioned the development of the Draft Highway Asset Management Plan (HAMP), which it was recommended be reported to the Committee. Members were advised that the Draft HAMP followed the same format as other Councils, as Welsh Government had wanted Local Authorities to be consistent with their Plans.
The Senior Technical Officer highlighted areas of the report to the Committee, including the diagram on page 1 of the report which showed how the plan was put together and related to other Council Plans. The funding information was clarified - £700,000 funding for a 3 year period from Welsh Government and the (gross) replacement value of the highway asset was calculated to be £1.1bn (the cost of replacing the asset as new). This was the singular largest asset for the Council and she explained the risks and anticipated funding over the next 5 years.
The Head of City Services advised that this was an important document that underlined how the Council would go forward. While the projected funding the Authority would receive was known, roads were a very long term asset so it was difficult to plan too far ahead and it would be continuously monitored.
Members asked the following:
·
Members thanked the officers for the previous
presentation, which they had found fascinating, not least the value
of the highway assets that could not be sold. Concerns were
expressed regarding the lack of funding to maintain assets. The
Head of Service explained that Welsh Government funding was helping
to make the roads safe and maintain them to a minimal standard but
would not go beyond that. Examples were given that the earlier
repairs and maintenance carried out in the lifespan of a road would
result in a lower cost, as if left longer more traffic created more
wear and investment became more challenging.
·
A Member requested clarification of the figures in
the Asset Valuation Table on page 28.
It was clarified that if the Council spent the Annualised
Depreciation Cost each year then the current standard of highway
assets would be maintained, while if they spent more the condition
would improve, and if less the quality would decrease.
·
A Member asked who decides the percentages of
depreciation. Members were advised that it was calculated in-house
within the Finance and Accountancy teams via a method using
condition surveys done each year. The
Head of City Services advised that the format of the Plan mirrored
other Local Authorities and that lobbying of Welsh Government for
funding was taking place.
·
A Member asked what form the lobbying had
taken. The Head of Service advised that
mostly through the Welsh Local Government Association, although the
Senior Technical Officer also met with other Local Authorities in
Officer Network meetings.
·
Members discussed Appendix A: Anticipated Five Year
Funding for: Carriageways; footways; Structures; Street Lighting,
and; Traffic Signals, on page 41 of the Report. Concern was expressed that there was no capital
funding from 2020/21 identified in the table for most of the Asset
groups, where the money could be used for new assets. The Head of Service explained that that some
funding has been added on 2 year basis and it is hoped that it will
stay that way but it hadn’t been included in the base model
so had to assume the current funding arrangement which is only
committed until 2021. Funding is anticipated, but not sure from
where yet. An example was given to Members of a £700,000
carriageway surfacing which had been topped up from Welsh
government for that year.
·
A Member asked whether the “patchwork”
system of repairing roads was value for money and would it be
better to resurface roads. The Head of
Service advised that the Service was not in a position to do
wholescale resurfacing works.
·
A Member raised the issue that sometimes crews were
returning to the same areas, which was not cost effective and that
such areas needed to be targeted for capital funding. The Head of
Service advised that there was limited capital funding available
and the Service needed to do the best with the funding they
had.
·
A Member gave an example of if George Street Bridge
being damaged, how repairs would be funded. The Head of Service advised that for emergency
repairs there would be a capital bid to the Council’s capital
fund, that would compete with schools and other priorities
identified by the Authority. The bid would be discussed with the
Senior Leadership Team and considered by the Cabinet.
·
A Member asked how the predicted 20% figure for
increase in traffic volumes on the M4 had been
calculated. Members were advised that
Welsh Government had provided these figures.
·
A Member referred to Central Government’s
decision to redraw fees in England and asked whether there was any
additional money in Wales. The Head of
Service advised that the road resurfacing funding provided by Welsh
Government was similar to English funding.
·
A Member referred to Appendix A: Anticipated Five
Year Funding table on page 41 of the Report and enquired why the
anticipated funding for revenue for street lighting was only
£72,000 for 2023/24. The Officers advised that this was a
typographical error and the figure should have been
£722,000.
·
A Member expressed concern that in three of the
Asset groups in that table there was no additional funding for
planned maintenance work for the next 4 years. The Head of Service
advised that Newport was asking Welsh Government for additional
funding, but was in competition with other areas. The focus was on
carriageways, the plan was based on what was currently known at
that time. If there was no additional investment over those years,
then potholes would be focussed upon. The draft HAMP explained the
Council’s overall strategy and identified what the funding
was allocated for.
·
A Member asked if there was any data to support that
vehicles parking on pavements damaged footpaths. The Officer
advised that the damage caused was known, but not the extent. The
Head of Service added that there was no specific data, but the city
centre had more delivery trucks, which impacted, and block paving
was damaged as a result.
·
A Member commented upon the good general management
of maintenance over nine years of challenging funding. The Head of Service advised that the Service had
received a lot of alerts about potholes, which going forward could
increase. The Officer advised that
during 2013 – 2015 additional funding had been provided by
Welsh Government so more work had been undertaken.
·
A Member acknowledged the extra funding mentioned
above which had enabled highway resurfacing, but was concerned
about future maintenance. The Officer
advised that there had been a buffering effect provided by Project
21 over a three-year period, followed a year later by the Local
Government Initiative, which had made quite a difference to
highways across the City.
·
A Member referred to the £1.5m Capital Works
for 2019-20 for Street lighting in the table on Page 41 of the
report, and asked when LED lighting was introduced across the city,
what would the estimated saving be by 2023-24. The Head of Service advised that the savings would
be on the electricity costs, which would equate to around
£200,000.
The Member followed up by asking should there be a reduction in
revenue costs as a result. The Head of
Service advised this would be looked into, but the cost of
replacing bulbs with a cherry picker would be via a contractor with
a fixed price contract, which had been factored into the costs,
however, revenue costs are impacted by replacing damaged columns
and replacing old cabling which required trench work.
The Member asked whether the savings could be spent on new cabling. The Head of Service explained that savings were energy savings due to LED lights and could not be used for cabling.
·
A Member asked whether the Service could use saved
money to light more streetlights in known of anti-social
behaviour. The Head of Service advised
that it was a possibility to extend part time lights to stay on
till 12am, as there were few complaints made after this time, but
could not afford full time lighting.
·
A Member referred to the Energy Costs for Street
Lighting increasing from £540k in 2019/20 to £791k in
2023/24 and asked if the increase took into account a larger
population and new estates. The Head of
Service advised Members that it included energy cost inflation and
could include taking on new estates but the contractors would pay
street lighting energy costs until the Council adopts roads and
estates. It was clarified that if a new development was proposed,
developers either had to agree to have the estate adopted by the
Council after a number of years, or alternatively they could opt
for a management company to maintain. Areas did not have to be
adopted by the Council, but the contractor has to show a plan that
it would be maintained.
· A Member enquired after the initial investment is recouped from Civil Parking Enforcement, would the profits be ring-fenced into this service. The Head of Service advised that by law this money raised had to be ring-fenced to Highways and Road Safety with set accounts and restrictions upon what it could be spent.
The Member followed up by asking if there was an estimate based upon what similar Councils were raising from decriminalised parking. The Head of Service advised Newport would not be on the same level as Cardiff and it was difficult to estimate before implementation and that payback had to be factored in over a period of time.
· A Member queried the target standards for footways in the Service Standards table on page 35, where the % in poor condition (red condition) target standard increased from 1% in 2019 to 5% in 2024, which suggested maintenance would not be done. The Head of Service advised that he would look at the base model, the report that sits along with this draft plan and pass the information to the Committee.
· A Member commented that as parking enforcement gets more successful, revenue for the Council would drop and that from there on Council would need to find other sources of income. The Head of Service explained that this was based upon models used by other Council and takes into account when parking behaviours have settled and the Service was expecting a small surplus.
The Chair thanked the Officers for attending.
Conclusion - Comments to the Cabinet Member
The Committee noted the Draft Highway Asset Management Plan 2019 – 2024 and agreed to forward the Minute and comments below to the Cabinet Member for City Services for consideration together with the Draft Highway Asset Management Plan 2019-2024:
a) A number of concerns were expressed above regarding the Anticipated Five Year Funding levels allocated in the Appendix A of the Draft Highway Asset Management Plan 2019-24.
b) Concern was expressed at the £1.5M Annualised Depreciation costs for Footways and Cycleways and the projection of the target for “% in poor condition (red condition)” increasing from 1% in 2019 to 5% in 2024. It was suggested that consideration be given as a priority for the allocation of funding to avoid this projected decline in condition and links to Well-being and Active Travel Plan encouraging people to walk and cycle be explored.
c) Given the increased in use of Management Companies in new developments, Members suggested in order to clarify accountability for Highways Services / Assets it would be useful to have a contact list for Management Companies for the related developments for ease of directing residents appropriately when queries were received.
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