a) Officer presentation
b) Committee questioning and discussion
c) Formation of comments and recommendations
Minutes:
Invitees:
Sally Ann-Jenkins
(Strategic Director for Social Services)
Luke Butcher (Senior HR & OD Business Partner),
Caroline Ryan-Phillips (Head of Prevention and Inclusion),
Mary Ryan (Head of Adult Services),
Cllr Jason Hughes (Cabinet Member for Social Services (Adult
Services)),
Cllr Stephen Marshall (Cabinet Member for Social Services (Children
Services)),
Cllr Debbie Harvey (Cabinet Member for Community Wellbeing)
The Strategic Director for Social Services presented the report.
The Committee discussed the following:
·
The Committee asked for the percentage of vacant posts. The
Strategic Director informed Committee that the current annual
turnover was 11.7% and agreed to provide the information
requested.
·
The Committee queried what impact vacancies had on service
provision. The Strategic Director informed Committee that some
areas of the service had a stable workforce, and the challenge was
in specific areas including residential care, the Child Protection
Team and the Youth Service. They noted
that the largest impact was pressure increasing for staff and noted
the challenge in recruiting and retaining staff with the required
knowledge and skills. POINT OF CLARIFICATION: As of
31st March 2024, there were 30.42 FTE vacant across
social services, and as per the data in the report 150 people were
recruited in 12 months between February 2023 – February
2024.
· The Committee noted the implicit dangers of relying on agency staff and asked what alternatives had been tried. The Strategic Director informed Committee that ensuring a permanent workforce was the aim, and that the main use of agency staff was within residential care. They informed Committee that cover was encouraged within existing teams where appropriate before using agency. They informed Committee that discussions to build a regional bank of relief staff for children’s residential care were ongoing, but it was a challenging area. They highlighted that work had been done to manage agency payments across all Welsh local authorities to ensure payments were kept down to disincentivise staff leaving for agency work.
·
The Committee enquired whether there had been any collaboration
with the NHS regarding the bank system. The Strategic Director
informed Committee that they were not working with the NHS as more
tailored system would be required.
·
The Committee enquired whether deterring agency work could impact
internal training. The Strategic Director informed the Committee
that the 11.7% turnover was not being covered entirely with agency
staff and the use of agency staff was not substantial. They
informed that there were constant reviews of pay scales and that pay
in Newport was high regionally. They noted the promotion of
benefits when working for the local authority including training
and pension.
·
The Committee queried whether agencies were taking money out of the
service. The Head of Adult Services informed Committee that staff
work across the 3 residential sites to provide stability and
familiarity. They highlighted that some agency staff had been
recruited by NCC and have had previous staff return after leaving
for agency work.
·
The Committee enquired what collaborative work was done with other
local authorities. The Strategic Director informed Committee that
not having shared pay scales was a challenge. The Head of Adult
Services informed Committee that Newport host Home First and staff
across neighbouring local authorities can opt to do additional work
over weekends. The Senior HR & OD Business Partner informed
Committee that they will always exhaust all in-house options before
using agency staff
·
The Committee enquired whether any work was being undertaken
nationally to assist. The Strategic Director informed Committee
that it had been a national piece of work carried out with legal
advice and done with the position of how to work with agencies
rather than against them. They agreed that agency workers were
necessary but it was about managing
their use.
·
The Committee enquired how NCC maternity pay compared with other
Local Authorities. The Senior HR & OD Business Partner informed
Committee that it was comparable and employee benefits would be
reviewed when the People Plan launched. They informed Committee
more options could be explored regarding employee benefits but
acknowledged there were limitations. The Strategic Director noted
that they were proactive in offering flexibility to staff returning
from maternity leave.
·
The Committee felt that the report needed more comparative data,
noting the sickness levels data. The Strategic Director clarified
that emotional illness constituted 40% of the total sickness, not
40% of staff. They informed Committee that the position in
Children’s Services had significantly improved and morale was
high despite the effect of the pandemic. They informed Committee
that feedback from staff had been positive and that staff enjoyed
the challenging but interesting work Newport provided. They
informed Committee of the significant reduction in sickness in
Children’s Services which exceeded the target. They noted
that Adult Services struggled with sickness levels, but it was
difficult to compare to other Local Authorities as data was no
longer publicly available. However, the non-publicly available
benchmarking data the service area receives shows that Newport is
in the top third of Welsh local authorities and is performing
relatively well.
·
The Committee enquired about the New Normal and stated that more
data comparison was required to show the impact on staff
recruitment and wellbeing. The Strategic Director noted the areas
of Social Services that had and continued to work face-to-face.
They informed Committee that a large proportion of staff work on a
hybrid basis and valued it. They also informed Committee national
and regional meetings taking place online allowed for a higher
attendance and less time lost.
·
The Committee enquired whether data was collected to ensure time
was utilized appropriately. The Strategic Director informed
Committee that no data was collected but work completed, diaries
and availability were monitored. The Committee were concerned about
staff wellbeing with diary overcrowding. The Strategic Director
recognised the challenges of back-to-back meetings but felt a
hybrid approach was helpful to providing balance. The Senior HR
& OD Business Partner informed Committee that staff survey
feedback agreed that hybrid working was beneficial for most staff
and that there were office spaces available for those who wished to
work from the office.
·
The Committee were concerned about the impact of Brexit on staffing
and recruitment. The Strategic Director informed Committee that
this was a national issue across adult social care.
·
The Committee enquired what was being done to address gender
imbalance in social care/work. The Strategic Director informed
Committee this was a wider issue than just NCC. They informed
Committee that there were male staff within Newport social
services and it was important that their
voices were heard. They highlighted that work was being done to
address issues raised such as male staff working with and
supporting dads and male foster carers but that men often became
managers quickly. The Head of Adult Services informed Committee
that service user feedback was important, and work was done to
ensure that the right care package was provided but there had been
no issues with this system to date. The Senior HR & OD Business
Partner informed Committee that the People Plan highlighted
representation transformation which, while not specific to social
services, worked to ensure the workforce was representative of
Newport’s diversity. The Cabinet Member for Social Services
(Adult Services) informed Committee that engagement with careers
fairs and schools was vital. They highlighted that social work was
not a singular occupation and that work was incredibly rewarding
which needed to be communicated more strongly. They noted difficult
periods during Covid with social work being targeted in the media.
They informed Committee that when staff leave roles, they
don’t necessarily leave the profession but move within the
umbrella of social work and it was important to show that it is a
worthwhile career path.
·
The Committee were pleased with advertising the role of social
workers and enquired how this was being done. The Strategic
Director informed Committee of national work being carried out with
We Care Wales on positive recruitment campaigns, which Newport
staff had taken part in. They noted that the service area worked
closely with colleges and social care providers. They informed
Committee that there had been a significant decrease in recruitment
as there were reduced numbers of people entering training
nationally. They noted the focus on encouraging staff to upskill,
as staff who had completed training tended to be
retained.
·
The Committee asked about succession planning. The Strategic
Director noted there were several programmes for development with
external organisations and networking opportunities. They
highlighted a range of supported qualifications staff undertake.
They informed the Committee recruitment was good at a management
level. The Head of Prevention and Inclusion informed Committee that
they actively encouraged those with play/youth qualifications to
engage in training for social work. The Cabinet Member for
Community Wellbeing felt that it was a vocation, and staff went
above and beyond for the service.
· The Committee felt that engagement was needed within schools to encourage social work as a career. The Cabinet Member for Social Services (Children Services) informed Committee that the nature of specialisation helped to enable staff to be supported in these roles. They noted the intergenerational work taking place to remove barriers and improve understanding which was reflected in care work being seen as a profession. They encouraged Committee to promote Social Care week.
Conclusions / Recommendations:
· The Committee requested the current number of vacancies within Social Services.
· The Committee recommend:
o That the report returns to Committee for review in one year which includes benchmarking data and considers the Committee’s recommendations.
o The continuation of work to encourage a more gender balanced workforce.
o Engagement with schools to encourage social care/work field as a career.
o The continuation of work with other local authorities toward a relief pool of workers.
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